It's beyond time (served) for conflicted MLB to lift Pete Rose ban, open path to Hall bid (2024)

Near the end of a lengthy conversation with Pete Rose on his permanent ban from baseball for gambling on games, he considered the question of what’s in it for MLB to reinstate him from its ineligible list after 35 years.

“I don’t know what their benefit is,” he says. “All of a sudden being fair?”

Maybe.

It's beyond time (served) for conflicted MLB to lift Pete Rose ban, open path to Hall bid (1)

From where he sits, that might be the most reasonable answer.

But fairness has nothing to do with it. And won’t. No matter how you define it.

If he were able to come up with a more compelling answer to the question, he might finally find his successful case for reinstatement.

Short of that, it’s simply time.

It's beyond time (served) for conflicted MLB to lift Pete Rose ban, open path to Hall bid (2)

Time to for baseball to lift the ban. Time for baseball to look in the mirror. Time for baseball to see its own conflicts of interest in a fast-changing sports landscape in which the once-unthinkable reality is that pro leagues have made a strange, gross bedfellow of the gambling industry.

In other words, enough.

Enough is enough for Pete, Hall

Enough time served for Rose, whose ban for gambling on his games while managing the Cincinnati Reds in the 1980s reaches 35 years on Aug. 24.

Rose aside, MLB finds itself in a slippery place these days on an issue it long ago determined was “baseball’s No. 1 rule,” as commissioner Rob Manfred refers to it.

It's beyond time (served) for conflicted MLB to lift Pete Rose ban, open path to Hall bid (3)

That was necessary to preserve the integrity of the league in 1920 when the commissioner’s office was established in the aftermath of the White Sox fixing the World Series with gamblers and throwing it to the Reds in 1919 — one of several World Series in the early part of the century rumored to be influenced by gamblers paying off players to tank games.

With the recent widespread legalization of sports gambling in the country, MLB and other leagues have quickly capitalized through partnerships with sportsbooks, and a century of unassailable firewalls have come down as sports gambling has become as ubiquitous in American culture as booing.

That makes upholding “Rule No. 1” as important as ever for the integrity of the game, to assure deterrence, league officials say.

And they might be right.

Rose's ban has not been deterrent to gambling

Except that Rose’s ban has proven to be of little deterrent value already in this new culture of pervasive, casual sports betting.

The NBA’s Jontay Porter, a player in a league with a $1.1 million minimum salary in 2023-24, was permanently banned this year after it was determined he bet against himself in NBA games.

Former major leaguer Tucupita Marcano was banned permanently by MLB in June for betting on baseball, and four other players were suspended for a year each for gambling on other sports.

To MLB’s credit, it has increased investigative and enforcement resources around this issue in an effort to keep pace, if not get ahead of problems.

But the fact is MLB has ceded its authority — certainly its moral authority — on this issue by its embrace of gambling-related revenues, including the approval by league owners of the Oakland Athletics franchise move to Las Vegas.

The minute you obliterate for profit the firewalls between your industry and the one industry you have declared in a century of rhetoric, policy and actions to be the mortal enemy, you have surrendered your highest hill in the fight.

If baseball needs a reason that better serves its own interests in considering a Rose reinstatement, how about this one: its near-miss with Shohei Ohtani.

Making Rose eligible would be no harm to MLB

Reinstating Rose at age 83, which comes at no substantive cost to the league, suggests an acknowledgment of the changing sports/gambling culture, suggests that 35 years is more proportionate in that context, and, yes, establishes a precedent for case-by-case wiggle room.

Imagine if MLB hadn’t found the path so quickly and emphatically to clear Ohtani — its most economically important, internationally bankable star — from connection to his interpreter’s felony fraud and gambling scandal.

The interpreter’s original public confession included a portrayal of Ohtani as a sympathetic friend, willing to help. If true, that connection would have at least launched a deeper investigation by MLB and could have resulted in severe penalties.

With a more moderated league position in light of changing times, it might have allowed a narrow window for the sympathetic-friend role to be acceptable.

Besides, the biggest deterrent against players gambling on their games always has been making sure they’re paid commensurately based on the money the league makes off them.

It's beyond time (served) for conflicted MLB to lift Pete Rose ban, open path to Hall bid (4)

And consider the example of recent widespread legalization of marijuana. Once considered felony-worthy violations of law in the context of America’s so-called war on drugs, some jurisdictions have overturned past convictions for recreational use and possession.

It’s not an apples-to-apples comparison. MLB is a privatized industry, free to make whatever rules it wants. And its integrity and deterrence concerns are not the same as the question of legal freedoms of an adult citizen to intoxicate oneself.

Cultural norms have been changing

But changing cultural norms should matter. So should 35 years.

And context always matters.

For example, the Hall of Fame, which proactively instituted its own rule in Rose’s first possible year for eligibility, creating an ineligible list in 1991 for anyone on MLB’s ineligible list.

Technically, it makes Rose’s Hall of Fame ban a separate question.

In the public discourse that question often gets conflated with off-the-field transgressions and perceived character issues that have nothing to do with baseball.

But it’s the Baseball Hall of Fame, not the husbands hall of fame, the nice-guy hall of fame or the non-addictive-behavior hall of fame.

And while character is listed among the considerations on the ballot, it’s in that context that character applies — how somebody played the game, made his team better, exemplified playing by the rules and competing.

It's beyond time (served) for conflicted MLB to lift Pete Rose ban, open path to Hall bid (5)

No one who saw Rose play or manage could reasonably believe he ever did anything but try to win and represent the game in that context. Few demonstrated those qualities more vigorously as a player.

A century ago, Ty Cobb and Tris Speaker were accused of game-fixing, and it was quickly swept under the rug. Cobb was reputed to be widely disliked, a bad person.

Both are in the Hall of Fame.

And don’t get us started on the crime against baseball that executives have wrought for more than a decade in their widespread tanking of whole seasons.

Ultimately, Rose’s greatest crime since his ban might be an arrogance, an unapologetic immodesty — “I am co*cky, by the way,” he said — that has made it difficult at best for commissioners past and present to reconcile some post-ban behavior and optics with reinstatement.

It’s probably the same brash, combative quality that also made him as great a player as he was.

Which makes the whole thing almost Shakespearean.

If the attitude of an 83-year-old man banned from the game he still loves — a game he impacted in profoundly positive ways as a player — is part of what’s still keeping Rose out all these years later, MLB might want to consider the integrity it can show by owning the risk of the optics.

Because it’s time.

Time to do what’s fair?

No.

Time to do what’s right.

This article originally appeared on Cincinnati Enquirer: Here's what's in it for MLB to lift Pete Rose ban for gambling

It's beyond time (served) for conflicted MLB to lift Pete Rose ban, open path to Hall bid (2024)

FAQs

It's beyond time (served) for conflicted MLB to lift Pete Rose ban, open path to Hall bid? ›

It's beyond time (served) for conflicted MLB to lift Pete Rose ban, open path to Hall bid. Near the end of a lengthy conversation with Pete Rose on his permanent ban from baseball for gambling on games, he considered the question of what's in it for MLB to reinstate him from its ineligible list after 35 years.

Why was Pete Rose called Charlie Hustle? ›

In spring training of 1963, he was sarcastically nicknamed "Charlie Hustle" by Yankees Mickey Mantle and Whitey Ford after they watched him run to first on a walk. Rose won the second-base job and went on to hit . 273 and be voted Rookie of the Year.

Is Pete Rose in Hall of Fame? ›

Today, the 83-year-old Rose is on a very short list of the greatest baseball players in MLB history not enshrined in the Hall of Fame, along with Barry Bonds, Alex Rodriguez and Roger Clemens, who faced voter opposition over steroid cases.

How many hits did Pete Rose have? ›

By the time he retired as a player in 1986, Rose had a record career total of 4,256 hits. His other records included most games played, 3,562; most times at bat, 14,053; and most seasons with 200 hits or more, 10 (equaled by Ichiro Suzuki in 2010). His lifetime batting average was . 303.

When did Pete Rose retire from baseball? ›

What did Mickey Mantle say about Pete Rose? ›

If I had played my career hitting singles like Pete [Rose], I'd wear a dress. After I hit a home run I had a habit of running the bases with my head down. I figured the pitcher already felt bad enough without me showing him up rounding the bases.

Why was Pete Rose so good? ›

Pete Rose's reputation is built on two pillars: he has more hits than any player in history and he helped his teams immeasurably with his hustle. The first is a fact; the second is a complete misimpression. Rose was not much of a hitter and only an average offensive player.

How rich is Pete Rose? ›

Pete Rose, also known as "Charlie Hustle," is a former professional baseball player and manager with an estimated net worth of $4 million in 2024 .

Why is Pete Rose in the WWE Hall of Fame? ›

He returned to the Reds in 1984 and served as manager from 1985 to 1988, leading his team to four consecutive second-place finishes. For his contributions to sports-entertainment, Pete Rose was inducted into the celebrity wing of the WWE Hall of Fame.

Who is Pete Rose's partner? ›

Who is closest to Pete Rose in Hits? ›

Players with 2,000 or more hits
RanksPlayerHits
1Pete Rose4,256
2Ty Cobb*4,191
3Hank Aaron*3,771
4Stan Musial*3,630
71 more rows

Who is the best hitter in baseball history? ›

MLB Career Batting Leaders
MLB Career Batting Leaders - Hits
PLAYERH
1Pete Rose4256
2Ty Cobb4189
3Hank Aaron3771
17 more rows

Does Pete Rose still hold the record for most hits? ›

The Major League Baseball (MLB) player who topped the ranking of all-time hits leaders was Pete Rose, with 4,256 hits throughout his career. Rose was followed in this ranking by Ty Cobb and Hank Aaron, who amassed 4,189 hits and 3,771 hits, respectively.

What were the legal issues with Pete Rose? ›

On the field, Pete Rose racked up hit after hit. Off the field, he racked up gambling debts. While persistence at the plate would reward him with baseball's all-time hits record, his gambling resulted in a stiff punishment – a lifetime ban from Major League Baseball, and eventually from the Hall of Fame.

How many bases did Pete Rose steal? ›

Pete Rose had 198 steals in his career.

What baseball player was suspended for gambling? ›

MLB said Marcano placed 387 baseball bets totaling more than $150,000 in October 2022 and from last July through November with a legal sportsbook. The 24-year-old Venezuelan with 149 games of major league experience became the first active player in a century banned for life because of gambling.

Why did Hamlin call Jimmy Charlie Hustle? ›

He earned the nickname “Charlie Hustle” because he reminded Howard Hamlin of Charlie, and it was an affectionate nickname in reference to all the hard work he was doing while working at HHM.

What is the term Charlie Hustle? ›

“Charlie Hustle,” the nickname that Keith O'Brien has made the title of his biography of Mr. Rose, was actually given to him by Mickey Mantle and Whitey Ford, who were making fun of how ostensibly, even showily hard the guy worked, how little seemed to come naturally to him.

Who is the founder of Charlie Hustle? ›

Chase is an apparel designer and owner of sportswear company Charlie Hustle.

Who was Pete Rose's first wife? ›

Karolyn Englehardt was the first wife of renowned baseball player Pete Rose, whom he married in 1964. Karolyn chose to live a private life post-divorce.

Top Articles
Latest Posts
Article information

Author: Prof. An Powlowski

Last Updated:

Views: 5538

Rating: 4.3 / 5 (44 voted)

Reviews: 83% of readers found this page helpful

Author information

Name: Prof. An Powlowski

Birthday: 1992-09-29

Address: Apt. 994 8891 Orval Hill, Brittnyburgh, AZ 41023-0398

Phone: +26417467956738

Job: District Marketing Strategist

Hobby: Embroidery, Bodybuilding, Motor sports, Amateur radio, Wood carving, Whittling, Air sports

Introduction: My name is Prof. An Powlowski, I am a charming, helpful, attractive, good, graceful, thoughtful, vast person who loves writing and wants to share my knowledge and understanding with you.